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A Few Questions
« Thread Started on Feb 7, 2012, 11:17pm »
First thanks for making this excellent OS based on Debian Stable, there are not many user friendly Debian Stable distros available.
I am used to newer versions of Xfce so I'm a bit lost with this one, how do I set the clock? It is 5 hours ahead of time despite being set to the correct time zone. Secondly, is there a way to change the default cursor, or is it default with the older Xfce? It reminds me too much of LXDE. Finally, how do I get flash updated, the correct plug-ins for Iceweasel? or can I somehow install a new version of Firefox?
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PS--I got the flash updated. I downloaded the plug-in, wasn't sure what to do with it, then found this on a Debian page under flash:
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
ran that in the terminal and it worked. Would still like to know how to set the clock and if the cursor can be changed.
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #1 on Feb 8, 2012, 12:22am »
You can set your system clock in terminal running as root
Code:
date monthday24htimeyear


for example
Code:
date 020814252012


Are you sure that you didn't set your hardware clock to UTC? What you get when run?:

Code:
hwclock



Cursor you can change in main menu Settings -> Mouse -> Theme
but there's no big choice, if you don't install additional cursor themes
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #2 on Feb 8, 2012, 12:33am »
For Firefox you can simply download the tarball released by Mozilla and extract it in your home directory and run it from there. Currently the upstream release is 10.0 and can be had here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/download....inux&lang=en-US
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #3 on Feb 8, 2012, 12:33am »
Thanks! That got the clock working correctly for me. When I went to change the cursor there were no options, just default.
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« Reply #4 on Feb 8, 2012, 12:43am »
Then you must install additional themes, you can find them in debian repositories.

Once again your time problem, do you have UTC/localtime set correctly?
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« Reply #5 on Feb 8, 2012, 1:48am »
Thanks again guys.m
I'm totally lost with the repositories. With Mint Debian and with Mepis I could add other repositories but it almost seems that something in the system is over riding my ability to enable other repositories. For instance, I added the sid repository just to update the broken xfce weather app, but even though the sid repository is enabled, and the squeeze repositories disabled, it doesn't work. Not sure what is going on with that.
I could find no cursor themes for xfce in synaptic, what exactly would I look for?
I was able to add Firefox 10, thanks for that suggestion. Really disappointed there was not a deb firefox file that I could install normally to add to the panel or desktop.
I had almost forgot that Stable takes some work, but in the end it is worth it to have a practically unbreakable system :-)
Not sure what happened to the clock, I was able to set it via the terminal per your instructions.
Thanks again.
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« Reply #6 on Feb 8, 2012, 3:23am »
Do you reload your repositories after changing? It's a button in top left corner. To find other cursors search for cursor-theme in synaptic, you will find a few. After changing you must reboot your computer, otherwise it will not change completely.
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« Reply #7 on Feb 8, 2012, 3:52am »
Do I need to reboot after changing the repositories? I know I needed to reload them and I did each time. But changing repositories had no effect.
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« Reply #8 on Feb 8, 2012, 4:03am »

Feb 8, 2012, 12:33am, Anthony Nordquist wrote:
For Firefox you can simply download the tarball released by Mozilla and extract it in your home directory and run it from there. Currently the upstream release is 10.0 and can be had here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/download....inux&lang=en-US


Thanks for this. I was able to right click on Firefox and make a shortcut to the desktop. It didn't show up right away, but I noticed it after I rebooted.
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #9 on Feb 8, 2012, 4:04am »
No, only after changing mouse theme. Maybe you should try changing /etc/apt/sources.list directly? Comment out with # lines for squeeze, leaving only that for wheezy and sid. Sid doesn't have all packages, it's better to add also wheezy
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #10 on Feb 8, 2012, 12:05pm »
Actually yes, there is in fact something stopping you from upgrading to sid and Wheezy. SalineOS uses a custom /etc/apt/preferences file to pull in backported packages direct from Debian, if you go off and enable sid and Wheezy repositories with this preferences file and dist-upgrade you are going to be in a world of hurt. If you want to outright upgrade to sid and Wheezy you will need to delete /etc/apt/preferences and stop using the SalineOS AutoUpdate script. If you want to install a single package you can do so with the command: apt-get install -t release package so for example apt-get install -t wheezy xfce4-weather-plugin

This probably won't work though, since the weather plugin in Wheezy is compiled against the Xfce 4.8 panel and won't work with 4.6.2. There currently isn't a backport of the weather plugin available. The weather plugin is great, except it has to rely on third parties to get weather data, and those third parties break the plugin constantly.
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #11 on Feb 8, 2012, 3:30pm »
Method with commenting also works, without deleting /etc/apt/preferences, I've installed that way many packages from wheezy and sid with their dependencies, and returned to squeeze repos after without any (new ;) ) problems with Saline. But of course everything depends on what packages are to be installed, so it's better to be careful with that :)
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #12 on Feb 17, 2012, 1:04pm »
"apt-get install -t wheezy xfce4-weather-plugin" does not work or do you have to add the repo as well. I'm not into pushing a stable distro to a breaking point but was kinda miffed about that particular plugin. It shouldn't be available if it doesn't work especially this being one of the best distros out. The only other thing I dislike is that the desktop does not update correctly with items that are deleted (I leave nothing on mine), unless you change the wallpaper or I'm assuming it gets refreshed in some way. Then and only then do the nonexistent icons go away. I did not have that problem in fedora16 with xfce 4.8 although the weather plugin did not work for me then either.
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #13 on Feb 17, 2012, 1:20pm »
For icons to automatically disappear you must have gamin installed. I'll try to play with this plugin, if I succeed I let you know :)
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Re: A Few Questions
« Reply #14 on Feb 18, 2012, 1:10am »
The plugin is available because it is available in Debian and I make their repositories available. You are correct in that I should probably not ship it installed by default.

Gamin will refresh the desktop for you and will be moved to for 2.0 as it is used by Thunar as of Xfce 4.8. For now you can issue the command xfdesktop --reload to update things manually.
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