[Solved] Getting rid of network manager « Thread Started on May 30, 2012, 1:15am »
I've just reinstalled SalineOS 1.6 on my laptop (as part of a move to rationalise the hard drive layout and increase the amount of space allowed for / for a couple of distros that I've got installed).
I had a few minor problems with the installation - had to run the multi-media codec install after the install completed, also found that most of LibreOffice did not get installed, but generally the install worked ok.
However, I'm now left with Network Manager rather than Wicd. I much prefer Wicd, and in fact find it much more reliable when it comes to connecting to my T-Mobile 3G Pointer. So I'd like to remove Network Manager and replace it with Wicd.
I'm not sure what Wicd packages I need. Looking through the list of install packages I created from the old install, I've got these:
Code:
python-wicd wicd wicd-daemon wicd-gtk
Is there anything else I need?
I was intending to download the packages, disable the network, uninstall network manager, then use dpkg to install the wicd packages. Is this likely to work, or are there other steps I should take?
Paul.
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Re: Getting rid of network manager « Reply #1 on May 30, 2012, 4:37am »
IMHO NM is the best . Never could figure out wicd or ceni... Ceni didnt worked even for lan if wasnt conected during install.. Debian has some serious issue when it come to friendlyness, thats why I use Saline.
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Re: Getting rid of network manager « Reply #2 on May 30, 2012, 5:06am »
To be sure, for example use Synaptic, there you have option for downloading selected packages and not installing them, so it will download for you all needed dependencies. If you need to remove NM first (maybe you don't need this step? You can just remove it from startup services), you can install downloaded packages through Synaptic later, it will be easier than using dpkg.
To be sure, for example use Synaptic, there you have option for downloading selected packages and not installing them, so it will download for you all needed dependencies. If you need to remove NM first (maybe you don't need this step? You can just remove it from startup services), you can install downloaded packages through Synaptic later, it will be easier than using dpkg.
+1 use Synaptic. Install wicd first, get it up and running before removing network manager.
IMHO NM is the best . Never could figure out wicd or ceni... Ceni didnt worked even for lan if wasnt conected during install.. Debian has some serious issue when it come to friendlyness, thats why I use Saline.
Not my experience. I've never used Ceni, but wicd has been a good deal more reliable for me the network manager. I've had NM fail to remember credentials, insist on having a keyring password entered before connecting to a network, and worst of all, lose connection to my 3g box, sometimes 2 or 3 times within a few hours use. I've never had wicd or a hand-configured connection to the 3g box drop at all...
I also like the ability to script wicd, and the fact that it reports the machine IP in a tooltip.
To be sure, for example use Synaptic, there you have option for downloading selected packages and not installing them, so it will download for you all needed dependencies. If you need to remove NM first (maybe you don't need this step? You can just remove it from startup services), you can install downloaded packages through Synaptic later, it will be easier than using dpkg.
Thanks. Didn't know you could install downloaded packages using Synaptic, though I guess I should have realised it could be done that way.
To be sure, for example use Synaptic, there you have option for downloading selected packages and not installing them, so it will download for you all needed dependencies. If you need to remove NM first (maybe you don't need this step? You can just remove it from startup services), you can install downloaded packages through Synaptic later, it will be easier than using dpkg.
+1 use Synaptic. Install wicd first, get it up and running before removing network manager.
Thanks. If I'm pushed, I can use a wired connection (when I'm at home - the 3g box is wireless only), but it would be easier if I can do it that way.
Anthony's suggestion should probably be the first you try.
That's a useful link - thanks. It would get rid of at least one annoyance, though I doubt it would help the reliablity issues I'm seeing with NM. I might try it first, just to see what it does, but I think in the long run, Anthony's suggestion is the way I'm likely to go...
Thanks. Didn't know you could install downloaded packages using Synaptic, though I guess I should have realised it could be done that way.
Yes, you can, you just need to place them in /var/cache/apt/archives Of course, versions must match. As for NM, some time ago I had the same problem with it, you have probably some configuration problem.
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. Never could figure out wicd or ceni... Ceni didnt worked even for lan if wasnt conected during install.. Debian has some serious issue when it come to friendlyness, thats why I use Saline.
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I also like the ability to script wicd, and the fact that it reports the machine IP in a tooltip.