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What's the difference between this OS and Debian?
« Thread Started on Mar 18, 2011, 1:19am »

I was looking at this at Distrowatch, and am wondering what makes it different from Ubuntu or Debian.... because from what I've read on site, it wouldn't be worth switching since there is no difference.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #1 on Mar 18, 2011, 5:59am »

SPEED.
This IS Debian 6 Squeeze XFCE
Anthony took all of the work out of setting up a simple Debian desktop environment for us.
Download and read the users manual. You'll understand more clearly.
Pass the salt.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #2 on Mar 18, 2011, 12:19pm »

The primary difference is that I will be automatically pulling in backports for users of SalineOS. More specifically my update script. Using backports can be somewhat of a messy experience sometimes and thats why I have a framework in place for testing them first. This should make for a smoother experience overall as I can pull in backports to testing and help work out issues in the packages with upstream before pushing them back to stable. Other small changes include:

Script for setting up restricted codecs.

No QT out of the box.

Wine repositories for keeping wine up to date automatically.

Scripts for setting up WINE and undoing some of the more annoying things it does (Set notepad to default text editor

) These also download and winetricks and use it to configure WINE with some pretty standard defaults.

Script for importing apt-keys with a single command. Apt complaining about a missing key just gpgimport keycode.

User manual to help users new to more traditional Debian ways, find their way around.

A true live installer.

Default configuration files to fix somewhat annoying behavior Debian has out of the box. Opening picture files with GIMP instead of Ristretto or the default page of Chromium for a couple instances.

A whole bunch of misc convenience packages added to make things work that don't in Debian proper (Without manually installing them yourself). <-- find new ones of these all the time

Clean to easily get rid of cruft left behind by the modern internet.

Legally distributable binary firmware that Debian deems "non-free"

Use of SLiM login manager instead of GDM to save memory. And, increase boot time (For what thats worth) ::)

non-free and contrib repositories enabled by default. (With Debian Multimedia just one command away).

Custom user interface.

Custom fork of the Tango icon theme.

Extra plugins for Pidgin and GIMP.

Sgfxi stub installer to get the newest version of sgfxi and install proprietary graphics drivers.

Remastersys backup utility setup out of the box. (Great program, for making backup disks)

Enabled desktop effects out of the box.

I am sure I am missing something, but thats what comes to mind.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #3 on Mar 18, 2011, 3:44pm »

And “Because speed and stability matter.”

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #4 on Mar 18, 2011, 5:04pm »

It would be interesting to know what you are using now? If it is Debian then you already know the problems to install it, not to mention the five DVDs plus one for updates. This is one disk, to install and working out of the box. Unlike Ubuntu it is rock solid.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #5 on Mar 27, 2011, 2:15pm »

Mar 18, 2011, 5:04pm, beardedragon wrote:

I'm actually presently not using anything. I just wanted to see the difference because I used Ubuntu and Debian, and was debating about this distro or Salix.

I really wish this was better known some of the differences on the main page, because to me having a poor experience with Ubuntu (loved it when I started, moved to Salix with 10.04 and have been jumping around since then), it would be nice to know right away what is different.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #6 on Mar 27, 2011, 2:27pm »

Mar 27, 2011, 2:15pm, noire wrote:

Mar 18, 2011, 5:04pm, beardedragon wrote:

I believe Anthony described the primary difference above, please read it again. Dowmload a .iso of Ubuntu with your favorite desktop and a .iso from here and try the live disks. You don't have to install it to see the difference.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #7 on Mar 27, 2011, 4:57pm »

Mar 27, 2011, 2:27pm, beardedragon wrote:

Mar 27, 2011, 2:15pm, noire wrote:

I'm aware. I was explaining why I posted this, and a suggestion to the admins/creators. That's all.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #8 on Mar 27, 2011, 5:53pm »

I do appreciate the input, and you aren't the only one who has mentioned this to me. I haven't yet decided if it is 1. A big enough issue to worry about and 2. What the best solution to the problem would be. When you get down to it, I build on top of Debian and a lot of things are exactly the same as they are in Debian. The only things that I do are change things I believe Debian does wrong and bring together third party projects for Debian into one cohesive package.

Users of SalineOS should be able to get the most out of the Debian base without having to take so much time figuring out what that is exactly. This doesn't make for very good reading though. I am not an Ad man, nor do I think I have the skill set to become one.

Possible solutions I have thought of and may do in the future:
1. Linking to a Why SalineOS page on the about page.
2. Going more vanilla and just posting my changelog from a default Debian install. (I would have to write up and clean this up A LOT as it really was meant for notes to myself)
3. Doing a screen capture (either video or image) of SalineOS and some other distributions, showing off different tools and configurations and doing pros and cons of the different setups.
4. Some or all of the above.

You can post suggestions and ideas on what you would like to see done to remedy the problem and I will read them. You can also email me directly at salinelinux@gmail.com, I read those too

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #9 on Apr 11, 2011, 12:03am »

Salü ! ... there ! ...

I was allready looking for this last release of ' Debian ' ... 6.o.1a Squeeze ' ...
but it didn' t work .. didn't start ! ... to let me see what I got ! ... was impressed when i found ' configure debian ' ... couple a years ago ! ...
and since then ... I did try several times .. to get to know more about this ' Debian OS ' ! ... based on GNU/Linux ! ...
now I have downloaded the two versions of ' SalineOS ' ... to put them an a USB-Stick ... each on one ! ... with about 2 GB ! ...

then I will see ... what's under the roof ! ...

what I'm looking for is ... stability ! ... power ! ... and some OS you can depend on ! ...

for so long ...

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #10 on Apr 11, 2011, 12:06am »

Mar 18, 2011, 3:44pm, Richard wrote:

And “Because speed and stability matter.”

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Yeah ! ... that's it ! ...

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #11 on Apr 13, 2011, 3:06am »

Hi folks ! ... here I am again ! ...

after I burned the ' .iso ' of ... ' SalineOS-1.3.2-i386 ' on a USB-Stick ! ...
I understand now ... what's the difference ! ... and why this OS is so fast in the ' bootup ' ! ...

of course ! ... there are just what''s nessesairy in there ! ... for to ' bootup ' fast ! ...
much more less ' folders ' at all ! ... you can count them on one hand ! ...

and that's it ! ... where this speed is coming from ! ...

will say ! ... I also did burn ' Debian 6.o.1 Squeeze ' on a USB-Stick ! ...
and there are much more ' folders ' on it ! ... even when it's ' bootin' up ' real fast ! ...

but it's not the ' bootup ' alone ... what count's ! ... the hole system is extremly fast ! ...
( when I think of ' Windows 7 Home Premium ) ! ... (you can forget about ' Windows ') ! ...

so far ! ... for so long ! ...

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #12 on Apr 13, 2011, 4:21am »

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #13 on Apr 13, 2011, 11:14am »

Mar 18, 2011, 5:04pm, beardedragon wrote:

Not true. You only need the 1st CD. Net install, followed by updates.

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Re: What's the difference between this OS and Debi
« Reply #14 on Apr 13, 2011, 11:45am »

Apr 13, 2011, 11:14am, aicardi wrote:

Mar 18, 2011, 5:04pm, beardedragon wrote:

Not true. You only need the 1st CD. Net install, followed by updates.

Sorry, forgot they have a net-install. Still, it is a lot bigger than Saline OS.

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