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« Reply #15 on Dec 25, 2011, 2:36pm »


Dec 25, 2011, 2:29pm, mihail wrote:
I dont really like Ceni, thought siduction might bring something more friendly...

I don't see any reason one couldn't install wicd then remove ceni.
I actually like ceni. I like wicd as well. I have never been fond of network-manager. I always had issues with it. That has been a good while back and I am sure it is better now.
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« Reply #16 on Dec 25, 2011, 2:45pm »

NM always worked for me, unlike ceni or wicd... it may depend on the hardware as well...
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« Reply #17 on Dec 25, 2011, 2:48pm »


Dec 25, 2011, 2:45pm, mihail wrote:
NM always worked for me, unlike ceni or wicd... it may depend on the hardware as well...

Exactly. My favorite is the one that give me no troubles. :)
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« Reply #18 on Dec 25, 2011, 3:10pm »


Dec 25, 2011, 6:59am, mahmoodkamal wrote:
Is it possible to use debian testing to pull newer packages once saline is up and running?


It is of course possible, but I really wouldn't recommend it. The AutoUpdate script pulls in backports, if you upgrade to testing you can't use it (it will break your system sooner or later) and if you manually upgrade packages from testing you may well break your system on your own. Good news is if you do break your system then you get to keep most of the pieces (Some will be overwritten by newer package versions).

Since it is such a dangerous thing to do from a stability standpoint, I have pinned Debian Testing down. This ensures that anyone who is thinking about this can reconsider before diving head first into it. There are two ways to use testing packages, the command apt-get install -t wheezy package (after putting the testing source in your /etc/apt/sources.list and running an update) or you can upgrade to Debian Testing by adding the source, deleting /etc/apt/preferences and then running aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade.

Keep in mind you are mostly on your own when you do either of these and your system is most likely going to become broken in some way or another.
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« Reply #19 on Dec 26, 2011, 3:38am »

Thanks Anthony for explaining it in a nice, clear and understandable way.

I guess there are a few packages which require frequent updating such as browser or office, etc. I think it is better to add mozilla-debian repo for FF.

Is there anything similar for Libreoffice as well?
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« Reply #20 on Dec 26, 2011, 6:04am »


Dec 26, 2011, 3:38am, mahmoodkamal wrote:
Thanks Anthony for explaining it in a nice, clear and understandable way.

I guess there are a few packages which require frequent updating such as browser or office, etc. I think it is better to add mozilla-debian repo for FF.

Is there anything similar for Libreoffice as well?


In a way yes, and it is already included. LibreOffice is installed via the package in Squeeze backports and will be upgraded automatically when a new version becomes available. The version on SalineOS is(Was maybe?) the same as Debian testing. You can also snag the newest .deb direct from LibreOffice upstream: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

The browser on the other hand hasn't been working out as well as I would have hoped. Then again this is mostly Chromium's fault at this point. I have virtual machines trailing both sid and testing, both of which have Chromium installed and because of various bugs I have been using Midori in the VMs. I haven't found a reason to care that Chromium is old on my daily use install though, it works very well. That being said, expect good things when it comes to browsers in the 2.x releases.
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« Reply #21 on Jan 2, 2012, 5:18pm »


Dec 25, 2011, 1:59pm, mihail wrote:
Mint on Debian is not quite developed as it should, still much to do.

On the other hand, Aptosid really rocks, have you tried it? Its based on unstable but very stable!!!

;)

I'll give it a run. I try them all.
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« Reply #22 on Jan 2, 2012, 5:27pm »

Pulling sown Siduction 1-2112 XFCE instead. I'll report back.
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« Reply #23 on Jan 2, 2012, 5:29pm »

siduction is no different than aptosid... its just a fork, they have a long way to go.. im not so excited about it...
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« Reply #24 on Jan 2, 2012, 6:23pm »

it's an RW. No problem ;)
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« Reply #25 on Jan 2, 2012, 7:05pm »

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It is Stallmanized and I'm out of air freshener.
Try out Dream. I've been messing with it. Not bad.

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