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« Reply #30 on Feb 11, 2011, 4:06pm »

scifidude79, LMDE is not Ubuntu based, it is Debian Testing, a rolling release.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #31 on Feb 11, 2011, 5:24pm »

right now I'm just running ArchBang Symbiosis, Bodhi Linux, crunchbang 10, Debian VI, Fedora 14, Foresight Linux, Linux Mint 10 w/Gnome & XFCE 4.8, LMDE w/Gnome & XFCE 4.6, MadBox 10.10, Peppermint One, SalineOS, Salix & Salix KDE, Ubuntu 10.10, Xubuntu 10.10 and 11.04, Ultimate Edition Lite, Windows XP & 7.

I had to get rid of Sabayon 5.5, three PCLinuxOS's, openSuse 11 something alpha, Simply Mepis 8.5.3 and some others.

oh yeah, I'm running OSX 10.6.6

and I do have one minor bad word to say about Simply Mepis. I don't know why but it has always been slower to boot in VirtualBox by far than any other distro I've tried. Although it ran fine once booted.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #32 on Feb 11, 2011, 10:42pm »

Feb 11, 2011, 4:06pm, beardedragon wrote:

scifidude79, LMDE is not Ubuntu based, it is Debian Testing, a rolling release.

Yes, I know. I was there for the big announcement on their website back in September when they unveiled it. I've also used LMDE before, both the original and December 2010 releases.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #33 on Feb 11, 2011, 11:46pm »

What is "more Debian"...MEPIS or SalineOS?

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #34 on Feb 12, 2011, 1:43am »

Feb 11, 2011, 11:46pm, joutlan wrote:

What is "more Debian"...MEPIS or SalineOS?

I am closer to upstream than MEPIS is, but they are really close to Debian as well. From Wikipedia:

"In 2006, MEPIS made a transition from using Debian packages to using Ubuntu packages.[1] SimplyMEPIS 6.0, released in July 2006, was the first version of MEPIS to incorporate the Ubuntu packages and repositories.

SimplyMEPIS 7.0 discontinued the use of Ubuntu binary packages in favor of a combination of MEPIS packaged binaries based on Debian and Ubuntu source code, combined with a Debian stable OS core and extra packages from Debian package pools"

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #35 on Feb 12, 2011, 8:17pm »

Feb 11, 2011, 3:46pm, joutlan wrote:

Feb 11, 2011, 1:05pm, malspa wrote:

Doesn't seem to be true for everyone. Certainly isn't true here.

I don't want to use Ubuntu though I do appreciate them spreading the popularity of linux and the effect it has on hardware driver availability for the rest us. That's HUGE imo.

It's true they get a lot of people to try Linux. And a lot of people like it but then a lot of people like Windows too. Ubuntu is buggy and has few choices on how to install. With Debian I can install a lean mean computing machine or a 2 ton Betsy, it up to me. And the added bonus is that Debian is stable even testing is more stable than Ubuntu.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #36 on Feb 12, 2011, 8:30pm »

Feb 12, 2011, 8:17pm, 62chevy wrote:

. And the added bonus is that Debian is stable even testing is more stable than Ubuntu.

I'll agree to that, been using LMDE since Dec. 2010

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #37 on Feb 12, 2011, 8:54pm »

Feb 12, 2011, 8:30pm, beardedragon wrote:

Feb 12, 2011, 8:17pm, 62chevy wrote:

. And the added bonus is that Debian is stable even testing is more stable than Ubuntu.

I'll agree to that, been using LMDE since Dec. 2010

LinuxMint did a fine job with it's Debian release. I was a whisker away from installing it when SalineOS came along. I like stable better.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #38 on Feb 12, 2011, 10:26pm »

Feb 12, 2011, 8:54pm, 62chevy wrote:

LinuxMint did a fine job with it's Debian release. I was a whisker away from installing it when SalineOS came along. I like stable better.

I also was considering using LMDE full time when I found Saline OS. I'd been searching for a Debian distro I liked and LMDE was it until I found Saline and it was a perfect fit.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #39 on Feb 12, 2011, 11:12pm »

Feb 12, 2011, 10:26pm, scifidude79 wrote:

Feb 12, 2011, 8:54pm, 62chevy wrote:

LinuxMint did a fine job with it's Debian release. I was a whisker away from installing it when SalineOS came along. I like stable better.

I also was considering using LMDE full time when I found Saline OS. I'd been searching for a Debian distro I liked and LMDE was it until I found Saline and it was a perfect fit.

What cemented the deal for me is when Saline just worked on my old Dell and Debian Squeeze install of Lxde and Xfce keep freezing up. Plus Saline is faster than with the Lenny install of Lxde I had.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #40 on Feb 13, 2011, 12:13am »

Feb 12, 2011, 1:43am, Anthony Nordquist wrote:

Feb 11, 2011, 11:46pm, joutlan wrote:

What is "more Debian"...MEPIS or SalineOS?

I am closer to upstream than MEPIS is, but they are really close to Debian as well. From Wikipedia:

"In 2006, MEPIS made a transition from using Debian packages to using Ubuntu packages.[1] SimplyMEPIS 6.0, released in July 2006, was the first version of MEPIS to incorporate the Ubuntu packages and repositories.

SimplyMEPIS 7.0 discontinued the use of Ubuntu binary packages in favor of a combination of MEPIS packaged binaries based on Debian and Ubuntu source code, combined with a Debian stable OS core and extra packages from Debian package pools"

I'm checking out MEPIS again now Anthony...I believe I like Saline better as it seems more "off the debian rack" than MEPIS. I used MEPIS quite a bit about 3 years ago.

Question....for KDE...what would happen if I installed MEPIS with KDE, changed all the repo's to SalineOS....and ran with it?

hehe....just thought of that...thinking out loud....see any problems?

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #41 on Feb 13, 2011, 12:53am »

Feb 13, 2011, 12:13am, joutlan wrote:

Feb 12, 2011, 1:43am, Anthony Nordquist wrote:

I am closer to upstream than MEPIS is, but they are really close to Debian as well. From Wikipedia:

"In 2006, MEPIS made a transition from using Debian packages to using Ubuntu packages.[1] SimplyMEPIS 6.0, released in July 2006, was the first version of MEPIS to incorporate the Ubuntu packages and repositories.

SimplyMEPIS 7.0 discontinued the use of Ubuntu binary packages in favor of a combination of MEPIS packaged binaries based on Debian and Ubuntu source code, combined with a Debian stable OS core and extra packages from Debian package pools"

I'm checking out MEPIS again now Anthony...I believe I like Saline better as it seems more "off the debian rack" than MEPIS. I used MEPIS quite a bit about 3 years ago.

Question....for KDE...what would happen if I installed MEPIS with KDE, changed all the repo's to SalineOS....and ran with it?

hehe....just thought of that...thinking out loud....see any problems?

Well SalineOS uses the official Debian repositories and then the major third party repositories (With the Remastersys repo thrown in). The only issue I could foresee you coming across is in the boot sequence. Last time I knew Mepis used Knoppix based boot scripts. Which are far different than the official system employed by Debian and used by me via Remastersys. I don't believe Remastersys will work with Mepis or Knoppix either.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #42 on Feb 13, 2011, 4:19pm »

Feb 13, 2011, 12:53am, Anthony Nordquist wrote:

Feb 13, 2011, 12:13am, joutlan wrote:

I'm checking out MEPIS again now Anthony...I believe I like Saline better as it seems more "off the debian rack" than MEPIS. I used MEPIS quite a bit about 3 years ago.

Question....for KDE...what would happen if I installed MEPIS with KDE, changed all the repo's to SalineOS....and ran with it?

hehe....just thought of that...thinking out loud....see any problems?

Well SalineOS uses the official Debian repositories and then the major third party repositories (With the Remastersys repo thrown in). The only issue I could foresee you coming across is in the boot sequence. Last time I knew Mepis used Knoppix based boot scripts. Which are far different than the official system employed by Debian and used by me via Remastersys. I don't believe Remastersys will work with Mepis or Knoppix either.

Thanks.....I've noticed some differences with MEPIS....Saline is more pure so to speak. They also use Grub1 which I don't like anymore. I did get hibernate/suspend working with MEPIS with an "intel_iommu=on" boot option, then something went wonky.

Saline is going back on....I'm downloading seeding the torrent now. I wanted to do a clean install anyway after realizing a couple of things (usually happens with a new distro for me). I have my complete /home backed from Saline backed up and ready to go.

Keep up the _great_ work Mr. Nordquist

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #43 on Feb 13, 2011, 4:41pm »

Joutlan, The newer kernel is a fix for the hibernate/suspend working. That is not specific to Mepis, other distros have this problem.

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Re: Other distro's of interest.....
« Reply #44 on Feb 13, 2011, 5:07pm »

Feb 13, 2011, 4:41pm, beardedragon wrote:

Joutlan, The newer kernel is a fix for the hibernate/suspend working. That is not specific to Mepis, other distros have this problem.

You mean MEPIS? The only way I have ever got suspend/hibernate working on my Precision, with any distro, is with the Liquorix Kernel with dma remapping turned on via "intel_iommu=on". I had it working with MEPIS stock kernel with that boot option, but something went wonky somewhere so I gave up

damentz had that option turned on as default with the Liquorix Kernel but he told me on IRC it was hosing some systems so he turned it off, so I now have to add that. Tux on Ice with Sabayon doesn't work with my system either.

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