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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #45 on Feb 13, 2011, 11:37pm »
Okay folks what is the leanest Linux system that you have installed and used for any time. The people over at forums.debian pride themselves on having a very minimal install. I know some systems can get even smaller than Debian and still be useful with a functioning Xorg.
Mine was LFS 2.4.x had a 2.4 kernel Xorg with twm. I had Firefox Mozzilla installed Firefox was only beta back then. No sound and no codecs at first. Once I got alsa installed and configured correctly sound worked fine and then video with flash. Used that system for almost 2 years till I trashed it. So I built 3.something used that till I borked it then installed 4.something used that till I found Debian then an rm -Rf * in Debians /tmp removed my lfs install. So I installed 6.1 but just used it as a rescue system for when I broke Debian. I'm real good at breaking systems
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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #46 on Feb 14, 2011, 1:49am »
I like distros that work. Size doesn't matter to me, though I'm less likely to DL a 3.7 GB distro than one that's 2 GB or less. I especially like ones that work with my graphics driver with minimal fuss. Some of those "minimalist" distros are a PITA when it comes to installing nvidia proprietary drivers and getting them to run. They're probably lacking something that a good, "normal sized" distro has (600 MB to 1 GB is what I call normal.)
I'm currently running Fedora 14 64-bit. Oddly, I never tried 14. I tried Fedora 13 last year and didn't like it, though my Linux knowledge was much smaller than it is now. I'm liking Fedora 14 so far. One thing they improved is that it's not a PITA to multi-boot with grub2 distros. Even though it runs grub1, all I had to do was install the bootloader to the / partition and reboot into Mint and run "sudo update-grub." It created the menu entry and it loads. Not all grub1 distros are that easy, Fedora 13 wasn't that easy. So, kudos to them for that.
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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #47 on Feb 14, 2011, 2:21am »
My biggest issue with Fedora is I think that Linux as a whole needs to start standardizing on a binary format. Really I think that should be .deb and not .rpm. Debian as an organization is more trustworthy than a corporate entity (See Oracle and Nokia for examples of friends turned foe). Don't get me wrong Red Hat are great people and without their work Linux wouldn't be close to what it is today. But, they could always catch a vicious case of evil in the future.
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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #48 on Feb 14, 2011, 2:31am »
I agree, the Linux community needs to pick a standard binary format. And .deb is my choice as well, if for no other reason than there are more .deb packages available. I like .rpm-based distros OK, but a lot of my favorites are .deb-based. Having said that, I'm still really enjoying Fedora 14.
At present, my only big beef with Fedora is that their package manager sucks compared to Synaptic. The one in Fedora doesn't give you a lot of options and you get not ETA or bitrate estimates on your downloads. I guess I'm just spoiled by Synaptic.
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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #50 on Feb 14, 2011, 12:45pm »
Are you saying conky would give me bitrates and ETAs for packages being downloaded by the Fedora package manager? If it will, I will have actually found a use for conky.
Are you saying conky would give me bitrates and ETAs for packages being downloaded by the Fedora package manager? If it will, I will have actually found a use for conky.
I don't know how to do it but yes conky can give you bit rates, eta no I doubt it.
Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #53 on Feb 14, 2011, 6:42pm »
Actually I find this project really "interesting" http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html. Its a Debian based distribution that uses Remastersys. AVLinux is "LINUX...FOR MULTIMEDIA CONTENT CREATORS". One of the really interesting features it includes is the build dependencies of "most" applications it comes pre-installed with. The list of included applications is HUGE, http://www.bandshed.net/pdf/AV4Software.pdf.
Some other interesting bits: Uses the Liqourix Kernel by default. It is LXDE based (Includes goth GNOME and KDE applications). The ISO is a porker.. Weighing in at staggering 2.0 Gig. Its user manual is 28 pages long and goes over things like building .deb packages and is also a PDF file. Includes commercial demos for certain AV software. Includes WINE by default. Uses sgfxi for installing proprietary graphics drivers.
I actually never bothered to download it until recently, because I don't really do any AV work. It is a really interesting project and if you do audio or video production you should really consider giving it a test spin.
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Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #54 on Feb 14, 2011, 7:04pm »
Great, another OS for me to test (does it ever end? ) Seriously, thanks Anthony. That looks cool, I'll have to check it out. I dabble in 3D animation, though I'm usually more of a still image type of person, but I'll check it out. I would like to get more into animation, which requires a good set of AV tools for taking raw animations and making something useful out of them.
Actually I find this project really "interesting" http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html. Its a Debian based distribution that uses Remastersys. AVLinux is "LINUX...FOR MULTIMEDIA CONTENT CREATORS". One of the really interesting features it includes is the build dependencies of "most" applications it comes pre-installed with. The list of included applications is HUGE, http://www.bandshed.net/pdf/AV4Software.pdf.
Some other interesting bits: Uses the Liqourix Kernel by default. It is LXDE based (Includes goth GNOME and KDE applications). The ISO is a porker.. Weighing in at staggering 2.0 Gig. Its user manual is 28 pages long and goes over things like building .deb packages and is also a PDF file. Includes commercial demos for certain AV software. Includes WINE by default. Uses sgfxi for installing proprietary graphics drivers.
I actually never bothered to download it until recently, because I don't really do any AV work. It is a really interesting project and if you do audio or video production you should really consider giving it a test spin.
Cool Anthony....I'm checking that one out now About Liquorix, it works so well with Saline and my "intel_iommu=on" boot option (enables suspend/hibernate for me).....have you considered getting with damentz and doing an alternate install option ala Crunchbang? I'd like to have your seal of approval on this....
Great, another OS for me to test (does it ever end? ) Seriously, thanks Anthony. That looks cool, I'll have to check it out. I dabble in 3D animation, though I'm usually more of a still image type of person, but I'll check it out. I would like to get more into animation, which requires a good set of AV tools for taking raw animations and making something useful out of them.
No not with Linux. The last 3 or 4 years there have been more start ups than you can shake a stick at. But that is a good thing, the more the better.
Re: Other distro's of interest..... « Reply #58 on Feb 14, 2011, 11:07pm »
Actually I am not a fan of the Liquorix kernel personally. Newer kernels are all well and good, but there is something to be said about sticking with a stable kernel if its working just fine. If you absolutely needed a newer kernel, I would recommend using apt to download one from backports when they become available.
Actually I am not a fan of the Liquorix kernel personally. Newer kernels are all well and good, but there is something to be said about sticking with a stable kernel if its working just fine. If you absolutely needed a newer kernel, I would recommend using apt to download one from backports when they become available.
I know, I don't have any choice because I leave my machine up and a lot and want it to sleep after a given interval. I can not make the stock kernel work for that as I don't think it supports dma remapping; but I might be wrong. Any case I can't get it working with it.
I'm waiting on a backported kernel for Squeeze like Lenny had. Where could I check the progress of that, to see if a beta exists, etc.?
PS: What is it you don't like about Liquorix Kernel besides the name?
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