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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #30 on Jan 10, 2012, 11:24am »

Topics come and go in a thread, I have recent experience with Petrek, so no problem here. If you squabble or get dirty, I have and will step in. Keep it educational, we are all learning here.

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #31 on Jan 10, 2012, 12:54pm »

Jan 10, 2012, 8:31am, petrek wrote:

When discussing it's hard for me to keep to one thread, so maybe it will be better to talk through PM or email? And keeping to thread, I would add some things to your script, not everyone has 7z installed.

I will do things anyway you suggest, I'll pm you a to a communications app i've been watching for a few years, It might be worth road testing if you wish to use it.

I think Richard would have an interest if something started happening with pascal
would pm's work.

anyway you wish, it's only a knowledgeable developer can make the choice as to what method/language to use.

When I was having the office app developed I travelled to lemming's place every sunday about 12:00 with a 486 and 15" monitor and spent until sometimes 02:00 in the morning mostly working on my software but socialising as well.

Trying to explain how i wanted a screen form put together or something never ever worked, eventually I learnt how to play with controls on a form and after that things were easier.

I'd take home the computer, make a copy of the directory he'd been working in which was always on live data while I worked on a copy.

I'd spend the week making a prototype screen or something and when I went the following week he'd look at it and say"that's what your trying to do", we'd have a cup of tea and a smoke in the garden and then he'd go back to the machine rattle away on the keyboard while i sat quietly watching with very few questions.

After an hour sometimes more he'd have done what i was trying to do in a very open ended way so it could be expanded in any direction but my 2 pages of code i had taken a week to write had shrunk to a couple of well coded paragraphs.

Having a clear view of what you are trying to achieve is essential and i try to see a big picture because if you do something significant it has a knock on effect on other things.

I'd like to develop an iso that would primarily be a system backup/recovery app come recovery iso for windows users.

When using the recovery iso they would be using fully configured SalineOS with the choice of installing Saline as a desktop or running as a live cd but creating/using a folder on the c:/ drive for use in the next safe browsing banking web session.

Am I right in assuming that clonezilla will back up win 7 and xp systems?

refracta put out an iso a few days ago and it impressed me.
the rescue iso i posted was pure salineos and i could just get it on the cd. 705 MB

I installed the refracta-install and refracta-snapshot debs, the cli ones and the gui ones so there was 4 to install but when i took a refracta snapshot it weighed in at 646 MB [image]

with that sort of space about i got rid of midori and put a firefox folder in ukbrian with a firefox profile containing the speed dial, multi/tabbed one so i was able to create speed dial pages with dials to run gparted, fsarchiver, snapshot, all the apps and also load/display youtube embedded video images on custom html pages.
It weighed out at 708 MB

I just did a fresh install of refracta and I've got it running everything i can think of and it
now weighs in at 680 MB which is good which is brilliant.
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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #32 on Jan 10, 2012, 1:18pm »

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My friend peter who's servers my domain is hosted on tells me the easiest way with lazarus is to install it on windows and then compile your project for linux

LOL.
That's probably because he uses Windows and would rather help on a system he uses.

All you need to do is to run Synaptic, find Lasarus and click to install.
It shows 89 dependencies which will give you all the pieces --Lazarus environment, fpc -the free pascal compiler and a whole bunch of libs to get you started.

OR
# root@Core2sos:/home/richard# aptitude update && aptitude install lazarus
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0 packages upgraded, 89 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 94.8 MB/116 MB of archives. After unpacking 666 MB will be used.

I'll get set up again to be able to help.
One good project completed will give you a good beginning.

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #33 on Jan 10, 2012, 1:42pm »

If you want to slim down SalineOS to fit on a CD better might I recommend purging any of these:

libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libopenal1 xsane-common xsane gtk2-engines xserver-xorg-input-joystick dkms fotoxx gimp gimp-plugin-registry gdebi gnome-doc-utils gnome-user-guide xserver-xorg-input-evtouch yelp baobab

In fact I haven't the slightest idea why gnome-doc-utils gnome-user-guide and yelp are even included. They got pulled in as recommends of Rhythmbox but I can't imagine them having any use. I will be looking into this for 1.6. None of these should be required for a recovery disk setup.

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #34 on Jan 10, 2012, 3:56pm »

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I'll get set up again to be able to help.
One good project completed will give you a good beginning.

I'm trying to use words to describe ideas i've been developing for quite a time. The politicians of the developed western world countries have not been doing very well for their inhabitants and i'd like to try to change things for the better for the majority of the inhabitants of this world.

Is that a good enough project to waste your remaining years on. [image]

So the first task is to penetrate the windows world with all it's rich pickings(users).
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The way we will achieve market penetration is with a harmless little app that will backup/restore their systems in a really simple child friendly way and a link to video tutorials showing them how to shrink their windows partitions and install Debian.

The trojan horse will be that when they use the restore cd they will be faced with a wonderfully configured debian stable/sid desktop with a customized desktop that is a joy to use and learn to use, it's children that are are targets, get them young as possible, they wont leave if the product is good.

They can also install the customized desktop they created as is.

Oh! I mentioned politicians by mistake
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Seriously though censoring or controlling folks behaviour is possible in a room you occupy, you do it naturally by the company you keep but forums are so different.

I bought vbulletin the forum software about 5 years ago and had it installed in peter the server's back bedroom.

I bought it because i wanted to see what was available on the best forum software in the world to an admin, I wanted to know how much you could configure this communication software but I only played with it building elaborate tree structures with its unlimited sub forums, never tried to host a forum, just flesh the idea out.

I bought another copy last march but then found i couldn't have it installed unless my server was running a late version of php but it wasn't but the server software is being updated this month so I'll be able to get the latest version of vbulletin installed on it.

I'm thinking of starting a forum at myworld.lin.me.uk where guests have the right to post and the thread starters have moderating rights to police their own space
Members can earn the privilege/right to have a sub-forum/space that they control and also a sub-domain web space for a website.

I think an essential is the ability to easily export your sub-forum so your not locking folk in, they can move their data/forum to different forum software or domain.

One add-on i would like is to the text editor and display.
I want to add a field to the members profile to set a value that controls what words are displayed and what gets ********.

I think developing this idea is another essential to make the forum more acceptable to all users, young, old whatever religion or language.

There is also a field in the user profile that changes as a reader reacts to a post by pressing a control at the bottom of the post.
Enough presses and the post isn't displayed to certain users who have set their level control in their own profile, the post shows as [image]

or some other message

Wow I went several paragraphs with out a pic, just in-case I forget
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Vbulletin is very similar to firefox in its structure, you can very easily customize it with add-ons that are freely available on the support forums with quality help.

I'd like to invite other folk to share their own forums there or did I say that before [image]

Off to video a fresh install of saline, I want to improve my technique with videos.

Before I go I'm also looking at this forum software http://xenforo.com/ my instincts are this one.

The story is the guy at vbulletin that developed the software had the company sold from underneath him about 14 months ago so he developed xenfaro from scratch so you could say this is vbulletin major upgrade.

you can put a demo forum up and play with the admin controls with both of them from their websites, go see what the admins do, see what a huge range of options they have and need to be fluent with.
i would like some feedback off knowledgeable folk about the general outline.

I'm shutting up again I tried to before but i just had to answer Richards post.
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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #35 on Jan 10, 2012, 4:17pm »

Why vbulletin and not some open source project for that? I could help in changing php code, but I don't have money to buy nonfree code. To the rest I will answer later, it's a lot of writing for me ::)

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #36 on Jan 10, 2012, 4:24pm »

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I'd like to try to change things for the better for the majority of the inhabitants of this world.

That's an ambitious project. I'm glad you chose something with a lot of scope.

PM me your menu ideas and let me work up a draft GUI with the Lazarus & fpc that are available from the Squeeze (SalineOS base) repositories.

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #37 on Jan 10, 2012, 8:09pm »

Jan 10, 2012, 1:42pm, Anthony Nordquist wrote:

Thank you, you answer my question with out me asking, I did try refracta but I felt strangely disloyal.

And then mr sensible said "you do not give folk beta software, you fool!" so I'll remove what you suggest and thank you.

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Topics come and go in a thread, I have recent experience with Petrek, so no problem here. If you squabble or get dirty, I have and will step in. Keep it educational, we are all learning here.

Please don't hesitate if you think anything I write will offend, just delete or make corrections please, I have tried my best to not knowingly offend those I respect for most of my life..

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When I first tried vbulletin I looked at the profiles of some of the add-on writers and one of them was a lady who looked for a market or niche for a forum and did a prototype in phpbb but as soon as it proved itself financially viable she bought a copy of vbulletin to make to reduce the time taken to admin the forum and anything that saves time, effort or makes life easier I like and if I have the cash to spare I will use it.

I have a copy of the old vbulletin installed if you would like to look at it I will pm the admin details but I think zenfaro might be a better choice.

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That's an ambitious project. I'm glad you chose something with a lot of scope.

I was so please when I retired and I had my most valued thing maximized, my leisure or quality time but I need to be occupied with something and I like tweaking someones original code but i'm no coder, I just have a faint idea what is possible.

I am apolitically if there's such a thing, I think in Switzerland a politician is only allowed to sit in parliament or the equivalent for 2 terms so you have much less corruption, not so many favors owed to folk who helped you up the tree when folk are able to have a life time career in politics.

I'm not religious or have ever been a racist and I'm also very, very strongly opposed to the genocide that the western world is allowing/financing/inflicting on the Palestinians in gaza and the west bank.

That's me warts and all, I've outlined my ideas and what my ethics are so decide for yourselves whether you want to help such a person.

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PM me your menu ideas and let me work up a draft GUI with the Lazarus & fpc that are available from the Squeeze (SalineOS base) repositories.

It's easier and quicker to make an iso with everything on it than for me to try and describe it.
I've got 2 novices waiting me to set up their machines for them so I will post a snapshot of the install I put on their machines, custom menus, panel menus on the desktop with folderviewer and a menuing system using firefox and speed dial which petrek's script made possible.

What I'd like to start on as I think it will help with the forums is to write a routine that reads all my smiley file names into a database and after a bit of working on them in the database write web pages for them in categories or find by searching. I'll take a few snapshot of what lemming has done in access.

My sleep patterns can be quite strange, I'll sometimes beaver away all day, then all night and then the following day when I generally tidy up whatever I'm doing and make sure I don't lose anything.
The following day I'm tired and feel a bit negative about things and look for problems in my thinking, then another nights sleep and the next day things start clicking into place.

Today I've just had a full sleep and I've been back at work describing things but it's now 00:50 in the morning and I might go through the rest of the night.

I just started to take snapshots of all the different screens you get when installing the SalineOS and I'm truly amazed at the number, my windows 7 give me a bsod when I done the 36th screen shot which is the last before the installer gets on with installing.

I'm amazed at the number of screens where a user has to make choices, I done the same exercise with refracta 2 days ago because I thought they could improve the screen forms and I'm sure there were only 7 screens but I'll have to check make sure i'm right.

I prefer the saline screen forms, I think they are really well done and better than the refracta ones but they are focused on the guts/inner workings at the moment not the screen forms

I seem to have been writing for ages so it's time for a rest.
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I don't mind creating a GUI for fsarchiver as we already have screen forms to copy, I think the screen should have tabs, one for backup and one for restore, you get a smaller less cluttered look but I think we need to write xml files or a profile for all the backups to automate them instead of the end user having to keep clicking on things just one click and it repeats a previously made backup.

I know I've been rattling on again sorry
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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #38 on Jan 11, 2012, 12:17pm »

Here's a free book on FreePascal by Jeff Duntemann, http://www.contrapositivediary.com/?p=1072
and the book is here: http://www.copperwood.com/pub/FreePascalSquareOneVol1.pdf
I've been reading his stuff for at least twenty years. TurboPascal, Delphi, etc.
Good place to start about FreePascal and pascal in general.

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #39 on Jan 12, 2012, 7:40am »

Jan 11, 2012, 12:17pm, Richard wrote:

I just had a really scary nights sleep, these big thick books(manuals) kept jumping out and swallowed me and I'd be helpless until some kind sage came along and interperated the clues which were written in a very strange obscure language that only the wise folk can understand, with their help I could get out of that sort of unintelligible hell, for me, until the next one big book trapped me.

I've gone back to the qt4-fsarchiver iso after my dreams of the last few days and reinstalled pure saline on a different drive, I use one of these sort of things with any odd drives that are hanging around http://www.cclonline.com/product/54784/I....-Rack/ HDD0516/

I used Anthony's suggestions to reduce the size but it's still 697 MB using midori not firefox
but it plays youtube videos so not so bad

Gerd50 on the mint forums and others have very low bandwidth and I was wondering if something like this could help by just updating his existing downloaded iso when I make changes to my uploaded version.
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Use the zsync file to create the iso from whatever version you already have:
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zsync -i whatever-you-have.iso http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dist...._1554.iso.zsync
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zsync -i whatever-you-have.iso http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/refra...._1554.iso.zsync

pointing at my uploaded iso instead of theirs and would this work for updating other distro iso's? or am I just dreaming again

They also use this to update their custom scripts
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git pull origin master
sudo cp repsit /usr/local/bin/repsit
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sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/repsit

I don't know if it's any use to saline

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Re: Syntax help with unzip on 7z please.
« Reply #40 on Jan 12, 2012, 7:27pm »

I went back to the pure saline version of the qt4-fsarchiver iso with midori not firefox and the size is 700 MB. I'm going to remove midori and try and get firefox in and see if i can still fit it on a cd.

On this video I demonstrate another simpler way of doing drop down menus that might be a good way for Anthony to add links to his scripts, as well as a walk through of the iso.

This video is 34 MB zipped up of where i am at the moment.http://lin.me.uk/temp/1-new-menu-01.mp4.7z
which is the smallest in size 6 minute video i have ever done.

I need to use an up to date copy of openshot for my video editing and I've been using avlinux but i'm not to happy with the desktop which lacks custom menus or drop down menus in the panel.

Drop down menus reminds me of when all dos apps changed over to top line drop down menus because users liked/preferred them to menus on the bottom, the bottom is where you put the small print you don't want folk to notice.

Then windows came out with menus on the bottom that you could move to the top but most apps didn't play nice with them.

I find it amazing that some distros put their panel on the bottom to make it more windows like, why perpetuate a bad practice, set an example of best practice instead.

back on track
I installed dreamlinux, done very little with it but i think it's going to be my av distro.
It's based on sid which i wanted and i'll be waiting for a sunny day on the debian weather clock before running updates http://edos.debian.net/weather/ and i expect i'll be using the other snapshot utility and i'll also redo the qt4-fsarchiver iso using it.

dreamlinux fast torrent at http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=t....b72cbaeabae9ad0
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« Reply #41 on Jan 12, 2012, 9:45pm »

I smiled too

If you are looking for an audio video development environment there actually is a Linux distro made just for that, it can be found here: http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html It is another one man distro made with Remastersys, and it is Squeeze based with a custom 3.0.6 kernel. The main draw is the customizations to the kernel that are made to create an optimal audio recording environment.

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« Reply #42 on Jan 13, 2012, 1:57am »

Thank's for the help and i've been using it for video but i'm unhappy without the menuing xfce gives me, i wish lxde all the luck in the world but the menuing is an essential feature and one thats been sadly neglected says a man whose only interest is in the desktop, the primary gui to the apps.

those panels i put on the desktop are a quick hack off another screenlet but i'm pretty sure we can do something in python or Lazarus to put a large panel(container) to fill the desktop area with smaller panels like I've been using inside with a combo-box list to select a variety of configured large panels to display settings whatever is in the main menu now without interfering with the standard menu.

I'm stunned by dreamlinux, it's just got it, i wanted to go with sid but these guys have done what mint were trying to do with lmde and they're marketing it as a multimedia server, if it runs myth i might be able to record my video capture of my hauppauge usb video capture box, i believe there are drivers with myth that see it. That will be the last windows app I use apart from paintshop pro 5.

That's a riminder, avlinux was the only late kernel distro that my logitech webcom worked on, i better install skype.

I think it uses legacy grub as grub-doctor doesn't find it.

skype keeps falling over but i'm very impressed and optimistic.

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« Reply #43 on Jan 13, 2012, 3:02am »

In openbox you can have custom menus also, although it's a little bit more complicated, since it's using xml file for configuration (the same type xfce is using for right-click menu).

About your images: I don't like brazillian climates, since I have allergy for the sunlight

The second, my mind stumbled upon this:
SalineOS. The purest linux solution

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In openbox you can have custom menus also, although it's a little bit more complicated, since it's using xml file for configuration (the same type xfce is using for right-click menu).

I'd like to know where the xfce stores it's drop down menus, I need a grep command I think to search the root folder if I give the menu or one of the items a funny name.

The dev who first started LMDE just made a post on the mint forum last night and i'm sending him a pm.

He mentioned in one post just before he sort of parted with mint "maybe we should do our own shell, it can't be that hard", so life's getting interesting.

I'm taking a right shine to dream, only minor little problems at the moment.

I need a routine to read a web folder or a folder on my hdd full of pics and then fire the file names and file sizes into a database on my desktop with a table something like this. http://smilies.lin.me.uk/new/0000-lem-smilies-dbase-table.png

I can manipulate the data then and produce html pages from them.

I love the on-hover control on this page, it's the bee's knee's.
http://photobucket.com/images/thumbs%20up%20smiley/
and I'd love to have that on my smilies page to copy the smilies url into your buffer and then just paste it in the forum editor, really slick job

very easy to add controls to the editor in vbulletin that's why i love it so, nothing comes near vbulletin except maybe zenfaro shortly.

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